Removing rear wheels.. duh.. what's the trick..

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Removing rear wheels.. duh.. what's the trick..

Postby vvurdsmyth » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:48 pm

Since I got the '86 E30 three years ago, haven't needed to remove the rear wheels, though I tried in order to closely check the break pads; yah OK, I now have a 32mm socket and have removed the axle nut but it doesn't budge; pounding with a rubber mallet to unstick it.. nada... now, (going to install cool carbon pads) I loosened the lug nuts and axle nut just a tad and drove it around the block; I got a bit of wobbly movement, but it wasn't budging; tried a wheel puller and gently put a bit of pressure on it (didn't want to bend the mag wheels).. nada the wheel wasn't coming off... There's something else going on there.. would appreciate a clue (~;
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Re: Removing rear wheels.. duh.. what's the trick..

Postby Dontrusthise30 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:08 pm

Maybe I'm missing something, but why are you removing the axle nut to remove the wheel? If all you're doing is removing the wheel, pull the lug nuts and man handle it. It's probably just rust holding the wheel on. I had to sit on my butt and kick a wheel with my heal to get it off once.
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Postby vvurdsmyth » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:27 pm

Thank you Dontrusthise30, haa, been there, done that.. pounding w/ rubber mallet and gentle tug w/ wheel puller doesn't work.. a bit of a wobble but no real movement; wondering if some mechanic added a 'mod'.. like with my clutch job, someone likely replaced a guibo with a guibo/harmonic balancer which is thicker than the guibo alone.. that removed the necessary play greatly complicated dropping the drive shaft.. had to unbolt the diff and move it back to get the necessary clearance; what you are saying is that the wheel should drop, just by removing the lug nuts..?
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Re: Removing rear wheels.. duh.. what's the trick..

Postby Yoshi » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:29 pm

axle nut stays on homie!

use a hammer and hammer the sides of the wheel (on the tire). try spinning the tire but keeping the hub locked. It should come off, it's just stuck on there gud.
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Postby vvurdsmyth » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:33 pm

Thank you Yoshi, tried it with a heavy rubber mallet; gonna go back and try it again.
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Postby Dontrusthise30 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:11 pm

Yes that's correct, it's just the 4 lug bolts. Nothing else holds it. I've been there myself and its a pain, but it'll give eventually!!
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Postby M20_fever » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:45 pm

yep, just soak the lug holes and hub area with good penetrating oil (not wd40, like Kroil or PB Blaster) and start banging on the back side, turning the wheel slowly. It can be a real fight, I had a 4 wheel brake job on my buddies Mazda 3 take 9 hours just because the wheels were so stuck on there.
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Postby vvurdsmyth » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:18 am

OK, thank you guys; glad to report that one finally came off; used a wheel puller though; figured if it was rusted with road dust + rust, pounding it would not work too well; still with the puller it took an hour to tease it off; tomorrow I do the other one and do the break pads... and haaa... m20fever, glad to hear that a Mazda can be worse; thank you again guys; figured to check with you to be sure there wasn't some little trick involved. (~:
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Postby Nsquared97 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:38 am

Just give it a swift kick, that's all I have ever had to do. Just make sure to kick it in a way you don't hurt yourself if it doesn't budge.

Now getting old rotors off that don't want to budge, that can be a real pain.
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Postby AustinR » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:31 am

Nsquared97 wrote:...Now getting old rotors off that don't want to budge, that can be a real pain.


I just hit the backside of mine with a claw hammer. Did the trick 8)
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Postby M20_fever » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:34 am

I've seen rotors so stuck they had to be cut off with a torch.
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Postby AustinR » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:50 am

Dang! My claw hammer and I now feel so insignificant!
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Postby M20_fever » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:01 am

haha, its not a good thing. Had to replace the wheel bearings on that one due to the heat.
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Postby AustinR » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:05 am

Yeah. I like to try and tear my wheels and brakes off every 2 weeks or so to fix them...I figure I'll never really have that problem.
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Postby Nsquared97 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:25 am

AustinR wrote:Yeah. I like to try and tear my wheels and brakes off every 2 weeks or so to fix them...I figure I'll never really have that problem.

Lmfao.

My fronts took some serious persuasion with my ball-peen the first time I did them. My ears hurt like hell and my hand fellt all sorts of goofy from all the vibration through the handle.
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