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Check One Off the Bucket List - I Finally Own a Luger!

Postby WildKarrde » Fri May 02, 2014 2:11 am

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I quite certain that it's a German manufactured gun, and based on the magazine (which doesn't have any markings) it's probably a WW2 gun, since it doesn't have a wooden bottom. Other than that, it seems to be a numbers matching gun. The one weird thing about it though is that Germany is stamped under the serial number at the front of the gun, but "SAFE" on the safety is written in English. It has very few identifying marks. I bought it thinking it was 9mm... but I can't fully cycle a 9mm round, so I'm pretty sure it's 7.65. I can't find any caliber markings on the gun, which is strange. The action is very loose... not sure if that's normal yet or not. The last time I saw one I was about 5 or 6, so it was a heck of a long time ago. I have no idea what it's worth, but I think I bought it well. I'm planning on bringing it to my local gun shop tomorrow and see if he knows anything about it, I've known him for a long time and he's very knowledgeable about firearms.

I'm a little disappointed that it doesn't seem to be 9mm, which probably means its a civilian model, but still pretty satisfied with the purchase. I've been wanting one of these ever since my great great uncle showed me his from WW2, so it's a dream come true for me.
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Re: Check One Off the Bucket List - I Finally Own a Luger!

Postby Ryki » Fri May 02, 2014 6:47 am

Pretty gun! I'd be interested to hear what your local guy has to say about it as I don't know much about em myself, despite working at a shooting range for over 2 and a half years.
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Postby M20_fever » Fri May 02, 2014 7:35 pm

Did it come with a Hitler mustache?
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Postby WildKarrde » Fri May 02, 2014 7:39 pm

Ryki wrote:Pretty gun! I'd be interested to hear what your local guy has to say about it as I don't know much about em myself, despite working at a shooting range for over 2 and a half years.


I didn't really know much about them either until a couple days ago... and to be honest I still don't know much about them when compared to the amount of knowledge available on them. Turns out they're kind of like the German 1911. In it's time there were many different variations of it, based on when, where, how and for what they were manufactured. Biggest difference being the 1911 has lived on as a functional, competent design for over 100 years, whereas the Luger has become a cool relic.

Based on the information I've learned from the Luger forums over the last couple days, turns out my pistol was built in 1920 by DMW in Berlin, for a 2000 piece order by Stoeger. It was built as a commercial gun specifically for export to the US, and it's highly unlikely that it ever saw combat or was brought back as a war trophy. This particular variant is classified as "Safe and Loaded" for the English markings on it. It's worth a heck of a lot more than I paid for it, or expected it to be worth. That's awesome, but also slightly disappointing, because now I'm really nervous about shooting it. I didn't buy it as a collectors piece... but I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth either. :) At least if it's going to be a safe queen then the availability and cost of the 7.65 ammo becomes irrelevant.

M20_fever wrote:Did it come with a Hitler mustache?


No, but luckily replacement mustaches are cheap.
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Postby M20_fever » Fri May 02, 2014 7:45 pm

Nice, lol. I own a Stoeger shotgun. Cheap but reliable over/under.
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Postby WildKarrde » Mon May 05, 2014 10:59 pm

So I got the pistol back from the gunsmith today. It got a stamp of strong health, perfectly safe to shoot. He confirmed all original parts on it, and no signs of refinishing. The right side grip chip is still there a well, luckily.

The holster, on the other hand, is pretty interesting. When I asked about the pistol, the owner said that her husbands father was the original owner. Then the next day, she said something about him bringing it back from WW2. That makes more sense now. The top marking is a German SS symbol, but I'm not sure what the "cgn 4" means.

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Postby M20_fever » Tue May 06, 2014 2:11 am

Cgn was the us naval designation for nuclear guided missile cruisers, and 4 would have put it in the 1940s-1950s, but I couldn't find a record for cgn 4.
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Postby WildKarrde » Tue May 06, 2014 4:54 am

The code under the Waffenamt reads WaA920. I believe it's a holster for the Browning High Power. Not incredibly valuable... I had my hopes up when someone told me it could be an SS holster. Would have sold it and kept the gun for free, but as is, I'll just keep it as it's a nice place to store my gun. :)
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Postby blasphemy101 » Fri May 09, 2014 8:50 pm

Very cool. I'd like to own a Mauser 98 some day (WWII-period ones are are a bit too pricey though).

My dad was a MASSIVE WWII buff - he actually spent a good bit of time interviewing a former SS soldier in preparation for writing a book based on his wartime experiences. It can be a bit awkward explaining the bookshelf full of SS/Luftwaffe/Nazi-centric material...
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Postby WildKarrde » Sat May 10, 2014 4:41 am

Those are neat guns, My dad has a 7mm Mauser from WWI or II, can't remember which, and don't remember the model, but I never thought it might be worth any significant money. I've shot it plenty and it's a great gun.

At first I was a little disappointed when I found out my Luger wasn't from WW2. But then I figured it's ok, at least it wasn't used to kill an allied soldier or murder a Jew.
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Postby M20_fever » Mon May 12, 2014 2:51 am

you don't know that.
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Postby blasphemy101 » Mon May 12, 2014 5:28 pm

Since you've always wanted one, it might be nicer to own knowing it wasn't used in WWII. That way you can shoot it and enjoy it without worrying so much about its monetary value.
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Postby WildKarrde » Mon May 12, 2014 6:14 pm

M20_fever wrote:you don't know that.


Well, being that it's a pre-WW2 pistol made exclusively for US importation, it's incredibly likely that it was never used for that, lol.

blasphemy101 wrote:Since you've always wanted one, it might be nicer to own knowing it wasn't used in WWII. That way you can shoot it and enjoy it without worrying so much about its monetary value.


It isn't worth as much as a WW2 Luger in similar condition would be worth, but it's still worth at least $1500, up to $3000. It's probably my most valuable gun now. I don't really know where to get it appraised though, other than a store in Illinois that charges $130... not really wanting to spend that much for a service with no added value, lol.
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Postby blasphemy101 » Mon May 12, 2014 7:15 pm

Wow - I guess I misunderstood how much it's worth. If you have a good idea of what it's worth, there's no point in getting it "officially" appraised unless you intend to sell it. (My opinion, of course.)
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Postby WildKarrde » Tue May 13, 2014 5:27 am

I agree. Part of me would like to know the official value, as a $1500 spread is pretty large, but I have no plans to sell it.
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