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Re: My new baby!

Postby 87e30 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:04 pm

ten2doyle102 wrote:Have you driven a stock m10? Omg they are slow. Lol!! M42 is way better. :)

Nice pick up by the way. Not a bad deal for $500


Haven't driven her yet, except at work when I brought her up front to get gas. It definitely did feel pretty lacking in power though. Hopefully I can find a few cheap bolt-on's to hold me over while I do the total rebuild of the 2 door.

Anyone know why an 87 325is weighs almost 600 lbs more than an 85 318i? Where the hell is all that extra weight? Couldn't be more than 50 extra lbs for the bigger engine and transmission together, where are those other 550 lbs??

I used to get so mad at junkyards when I got to an e30 and saw a 4-banger under the hood. I always completely ignored them. Now that I have one I bet I don't find any more. :-P
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Postby M20_fever » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:31 am

Lots of little stuff that adds up. Real early e30s had lighter engine, trans, diff, less coolant capacity, less sound deadening, and smaller radiator. Pretty sure the side window glass is lighter in early models too. I'm sure there lots of stuff I missed.
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Re: My new baby!

Postby Ryki » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:58 am

Definitely an interesting not, sounds like you have a good setup to with in regards to your endeavors, and it being so cheap only expands the possibilities/makes it easier.
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Postby Nsquared97 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:44 am

Yeah, way less sound insulation, thinner carpets, no trunk tar, etc etc. But on the negative side I'm pretty sure they have the smaller/less desireable struts, rear drum brakes. And I bet you the engine trans is quite a bit lighter, the M20+G260 is HEAVY...
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Postby 87e30 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:29 am

I hope it doesn't have drums in the back. I haven't even thought to look. I'm sure I will end up doing some suspension work to it anyway too.
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Alpine white 5-speed 87 325is (my first e30, possibly for sale)
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Postby ten2doyle102 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:54 am

It will have drum brakes. All 318i of that era would have them.

Also, crank windows too! Saves a few pounds.
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Re: My new baby!

Postby blasphemy101 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:33 pm

Nsquared97 wrote:Mainly because I keep hearing the 4 cylinder cars are a lot more toss able and nimble, and those early ones are stupid light (2400-2500 lbs).


I think a lot of that is just played up. I understand the concept of center of mass and all that - an M20 E30 does have a lot of weight in the front. I would still take 2800 lbs/168 hp over 2400 lbs/ 98 hp. When you're going that slow, a U-haul truck feels nimble. :wink:

I get what you're saying though - my S2000 has given me quite the soft spot for DDs with small motors you can rev the nuts off of.
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Postby M20_fever » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:18 am

All e30s have nearly perfect 50/50 weight distribution stock regardless of curb weight. The M20 is heavier but they didn't just dump all the extra weight onto the front suspension, its spread out.
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Postby Nsquared97 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:16 am

blasphemy101 wrote:When you're going that slow, a U-haul truck feels nimble. :wink:.

Haha I guess this is a pretty good point. And the better balance would sort of be ruined by the lack of torque/power to make the car rotate.
M20_fever wrote:All e30s have nearly perfect 50/50 weight distribution stock regardless of curb weight. The M20 is heavier but they didn't just dump all the extra weight onto the front suspension, its spread out.

My car without power steering and AC is about 52/48, stock is probably closer to 53/47. Still not bad at all for a factory vehicle. But your right, trunk tar and other things were added to help keep the balance ideal. I guess when you think about, BMW did go to pretty decent lengths to keep the balance where they wanted it on the E30 chassis, what with extra sound deadening, battery placement, hell even the 50 weight they put in the trunk of convertibles.
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Re: My new baby!

Postby 87e30 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:33 pm

ten2doyle102 wrote:It will have drum brakes. All 318i of that era would have them.

Also, crank windows too! Saves a few pounds.


I have crank sunroof, but power windows. Not sure if it has power locks or not. If it does they aren't working.
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Postby Nsquared97 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:28 pm

I 'think' all US E30's had central locking, didn't they?
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Postby M20_fever » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:34 pm

yeah, somethings broke.
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Re: My new baby!

Postby 87e30 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:57 am

I haven't even had time to look at anything at all yet. I was hoping for power locks. Could be as simple as a blown fuse. If it's the relay I have a couple spares laying around somewhere as long as the 2 door and 4 door use the same relay.
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Alpine white 5-speed 87 325is (my first e30, possibly for sale)
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Postby ten2doyle102 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:12 am

Does it work at all thru the trunk? My last 318 would only lock if I locked it with the trunk lock.
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Postby M20_fever » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:34 am

Yeah I had an e30 like that too.
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