Longest inner tie rods

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Longest inner tie rods

Postby Jroc81 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:12 pm

As the title suggests, I want to know what the longest inners are that I can buy, which will swap directly in. This topic's also on the r3v, but I'm not really getting the right answers there, so this question is aimed squarely at anyone here who has successfully mounted an e36, e46 or, e90 inner onto an e30 rack.
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Re: Longest inner tie rods

Postby M20_fever » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:51 am

Yoshi is running e46 units and they are LONG. I can't think of anything longer that would be a stock part off hand. I'm assuming your looking for increased steering angle for drifting? If so, have you looked into tie rod spacers?
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Re: Longest inner tie rods

Postby Yoshi » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:17 pm

I believe the longest was an E90 outer with a stock inner. Or it was the other way around. It's in the E46 control arm thread. I still use stock tie rods because I use tie rod spacers.

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Postby Jroc81 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:37 pm

@m20fever you assume correctly. Yoshi, it's for a tie rod set-up with a spherical outer rod-end. But the rod-end I'm using is something like 3 inches center(of the mounting bolt) to where the lock nut would contact the adjusting sleeve. So I need the longest inner that'll bolt onto an e30 rack, so I can make up the difference in the length(of the outers)
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Postby Yoshi » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:23 pm

ah... I did some thing a while ago where I took the E34 "tie rods" and modded them to make a long ass tie rod.
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Postby Jroc81 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:22 pm

Yeah I read about that a while back. I'm trying to make a more...bolt on solution. Also It seems like spherical rod ends give a more direct steering feel, aside from lasting longer than ball-and-socket ends.
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Re: Longest inner tie rods

Postby Yoshi » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:22 pm

If you want better steering feel, this won't do it. Solid control arm bushings will do much more for you.
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Postby Jroc81 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:27 pm

You're probably right but they are stronger and do last longer...
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Re: Longest inner tie rods

Postby Yoshi » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:33 pm

nah. technically spherical bearings wear out faster. The ball joints at least have rubber dust boots on them. Most rally cars change all their spherical bearings at least once a year. The technology to fit them has gotten better and their life span much longer but good old fashioned ball joints beat them in longevity by a long shot. That's why manufacturers still use them.

Stronger? yes. I won't dispute that. But unless you're pulling high Gs consistently, I see no point.

I would do spherical bearings for a track dedicated car tie rod. Not for a street car.
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Postby Jroc81 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:03 pm

Hmm well that's fitting because it's a drift car first and only on the street when I get stupid and decide to do something to the daily like coilovers or test fitting wheels, or taking 1 of 100 measurements for a twin-turbo set-up etc...
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Postby Jroc81 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:20 pm

I think e30ordie figured out the longest that'd fit were e9x inners. I was hoping somebody would know how long they measure out to
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Re: Longest inner tie rods

Postby Yoshi » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:28 pm

maybe he'll chime in or someone should PM the dude.
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Postby Jroc81 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:06 pm

Lol I did a couple days ago. Before I
started this thread actually. Guess he's a busy dude...
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Postby Jroc81 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:33 am

I think I'm just gonna take your(his?) advice and do e9x inners and e36 outers. It should be plenty long enough for some extra angle, and the inners are shot now anyway. Maybe I'll try this again, when this car is devoted to drift only.
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Re: Longest inner tie rods

Postby Yoshi » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:46 am

sounds good to me! be sure to post pictures.
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